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what "master" was balrog referring to?

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Jun 15, 2018 at 5:02 AM
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A new master has appeared. This time, the surface will finally be ours!" But what master?
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binary said:
Balrog & Misery are shown clearly to be under The Doctor's orders.
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I believe the answer has already been in your opening post here. Add two and two together, really, and it's not like Jenka was aware of the Doctor's presence before Balrog told her about it.
 
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Jun 15, 2018 at 7:19 AM
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I doubt Misery or Balrog actually visited Ballos during the events of the game.
 
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I doubt Misery or Balrog actually visited Ballos during the events of the game.
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how did balrog get down into that final battle area to save curly and quote?
 
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how did balrog get down into that final battle area to save curly and quote?
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Misery gave him the directions to reach there, since she has gone down there to talk to Ballos in the past, meaning she has an idea on how things go in Ballos' chamber. It is possible that Balrog has previously gone to the Sacred Grounds himself, but we have no confirmation nor denial of that being the case.
 
Jun 16, 2018 at 12:28 AM
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Misery gave him the directions to reach there, since she has gone down there to talk to Ballos in the past, meaning she has an idea on how things go in Ballos' chamber. It is possible that Balrog has previously gone to the Sacred Grounds himself, but we have no confirmation nor denial of that being the case.
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but like did he just go up to the balcony say "wait whats a this hole in the ground? oh wait maybe its secret area" then he flies over a bunch of spikes and is like why these big rocks falling but im pretty tough walks through them he sees an even bigger hole in the ground hes like "woah thats a big press" and then hes like woah cool sky room thing wait the door doesnt have a ground ahhh OH HEY GUYS time to save you!" and then somehow got there
or maybe misery teleported balrog


thatd be an overpowered combo like omega is just there and then all of a sudden a wild balrog just tackles him from out of nowhere and them boom omega is BOOM!!
 
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It's technically accessible through the Plantation, iirc. Quote just couldn't go through there.
 
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It's technically accessible through the Plantation, iirc. Quote just couldn't go through there.
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But the thing about that is we never see what actually blocked the door to the plantation (when you go to hell), so i don't really think it's certain that Balrog just smashed through the door
 
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It's technically accessible through the Plantation, iirc. Quote just couldn't go through there.
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oh yeah i kind of forgot about that area
do you think that was just to be like "WOW i remember this place so thats what the door is"
or so if you get the bad ending you're like "wait what was that booster 2.0 and how come i never could go in that one door"
 
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How did Balrog get down into [every single scene he appears in]
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i always assumed he kind of broke through the roof of whatever building or maybe has some other weird balrog ways to get in

but i thought the other place was pretty deep underground so...
 
Jun 21, 2018 at 5:55 AM
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How did Balrog get down into [every single scene he appears in]
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Technically he is just there like there there but in reality, WHAT! and also how did balrog got to where curly and quote are in the seal chamber. like did he had to break the roof as well?.
I'm pretty sure balrog meant his master the dr.(wily)
 
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i always assumed he kind of broke through the roof of whatever building or maybe has some other weird balrog ways to get in

but i thought the other place was pretty deep underground so...
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Technically he is just there like there there but in reality, WHAT! and also how did balrog got to where curly and quote are in the seal chamber. like did he had to break the roof as well?.
I'm pretty sure balrog meant his master the dr.(wily)
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Considering how Balrog is easily capable of destroying the roof of the seal chamber, that isn't entirely out of the question. Pixel easily could have done some <CNPs to convey him actually destroying where he jumps through, but he is often defeated in a variable position.
 
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Pixel easily could have done some <CNPs to convey him actually destroying where he jumps through, but he is often defeated in a variable position.
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wait you mean like destroying blocks or destroying other npcs or something?
 
Jun 22, 2018 at 12:56 PM
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I think he means showing balrog destroying the blocks in the path relating to where he fled.
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i think that was part of some <ANP thing called super going up or something
 
Jun 22, 2018 at 5:28 PM
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i think that was part of some <ANP thing called super going up or something
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Yea it's ANP 100:
0100 Super going up!
It changes tiles and is used only after you defeat Ballos iirc.
 
Jun 22, 2018 at 9:40 PM
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Yea it's ANP 100:
0100 Super going up!
It changes tiles and is used only after you defeat Ballos iirc.
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That'd make sense because balrog is actually shown to break the tiles.
 
Jun 23, 2018 at 2:03 AM
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That'd make sense because balrog is actually shown to break the tiles.
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im curious, does the big heavy press boss work similar after it crashes down?

also imagine heavy press was a little bit farther the right and it just crushes ballos and his entire chamber after you beat it

also is heavy press the boss heavy press boss or just heavy press and are the -127 smaller ones called presses or heavy presses?
because i call them all heavy presses
 
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Presses are the small ones, the large one you fight in hell is the Heavy Press. It does make for an interesting and dumb mod idea if all presses are really the Heavy Press.
 
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im curious, does the big heavy press boss work similar after it crashes down?

also imagine heavy press was a little bit farther the right and it just crushes ballos and his entire chamber after you beat it
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Actually no, Pixel, as I call it, "TSC-ed it" where you do CMPs to time it perfectly as Heavy Press falls down.
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<CMP0008:0022:0000
<CMP0009:0022:0000
<CMP0010:0022:0000
<CMP0011:0022:0000
<CMP0012:0022:0000
<WAI0006<SOU0012
<CMP0008:0024:0000
<CMP0009:0024:0000
<CMP0010:0024:0000
<CMP0011:0024:0000
<CMP0012:0024:0000
<WAI0006<SOU0012
<CMP0008:0026:0000
<CMP0009:0026:0000
<CMP0010:0026:0000
<CMP0011:0026:0000
<CMP0012:0026:0000
<WAI0006<SOU0012
<CMP0008:0028:0000
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