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The Mimiga Hero

Oct 17, 2018 at 4:49 PM
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Ok, So this is my first mod, It's pretty much Quote....but a Mimiga. I made a few changes to the lore and items and also added some dialogue. Nothing much
Things that are different!
There is only one heath upgrade which adds ten hp
Quote talks
Machine Gun, now dubbed the AK-47 does 3, 6, and 9 damage instead of 2, 4, and 6.
No more bubblier.
The AK-47 can be found by extinguishing the assembly hall fireplace. Talking to Curly only gets you the greased mag. The problem is I don't know how to set it so Curly always has her AK-47
The only health upgrade you can use is in plantation with the dog. Plus 10 hp.
If you take off "My Face", you will be called a hacker by those who have different lines depending on if you wear it or not
Please let me know of any errors.
so uh...here's link to dropbox.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ll7m6heh61sow10/The Mimiga Hero Mod.zip?dl=0
Current bugs.
At start up if you don't save and die. When you return to the beginning, Quote won't have his mask. This I don't know how to fix.

Curly will always have the Polar Star during Labyrinth Fight. I don't know how to fix this.


Please notify me if there's any other bugs.

Things to look forward to.

More lines for Quote.
Changed story line some more?
Maybe Quote faces? IDK I suck at photoshop. But if you want, you can help out.
Changed credit pics. This is currently being working by Mister Destroyer. Thanks btw if you are reading this.

Blade will have an actual sprite.
Don't expect much from this. It's just King's Sword.

Anyone who contributes will be mentioned in the Credits.

Fixed bugs!

There was a heath capsule that can be used but I'm not telling which one. Please if you do come across this. Reset the game to your last save or edit so your health is back to 5. Unless you re downloaded the game. In that case it should be gone.

Update!
Denville! Where Quote lives.
Quote has a house!
An unnamed Mimiga had been named.
Added lines!
Quote is no longer a stranger!
 
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Oct 17, 2018 at 6:21 PM
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#2
To do the spoiler button
you have to
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Use the preview button to help yourself
 
Oct 17, 2018 at 7:03 PM
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thanks
 
Oct 17, 2018 at 7:10 PM
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Hi, this is a nice first mod!

But I do have to say that the idea of a Mimiga being the main hero has much, much more potential. I know that there are some interesting dialog changes and the AK instead of the Machine Gun and the Life Capsules being unusable, but there definitely could be more to this.
You can make some changes to the level design, since playing with 15 HP through Cave Story is a real challenge, I'd say. You can make a different storyline with different levels based on Mimigas, since now they can trust you more. You can add more dialog to your new character and change the storyline up.

What I am saying is, you can definitely try to update and expand on this. Currently, this mod still feels like replaying Cave Story, which I wouldn't say is bad, but it's not as interesting as something original. Even if it seems difficult, it never hurts to try, right? I'm interested in what you'll make of this, if you're planning to update and add more content.
 
Oct 17, 2018 at 7:14 PM
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It's my first mod. But don't worry. I was testing the waters so I can see if anyone would actually like the idea. I'm getting someone to help me rework the credit pics and I'm still working on it. Don't worry. This isn't the end of the Mimiga Hero
 
Oct 17, 2018 at 8:36 PM
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#6
i like it
i havent played through all of it yet but i like it so far
 
Oct 17, 2018 at 8:48 PM
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Glad you do.
 
Oct 17, 2018 at 9:12 PM
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I liked the message changes. They are very creative and the mod is very challenging removing the life capsule usages. In my first gameplay, I died from the first spike and had to restart again. :oops: I noticed when you restart the game without saved before, Quote loses his mas- I mean, his fur and returns to be a robot, but aside of that bug, it's a good mod in my opinion!
 
Oct 17, 2018 at 9:21 PM
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Yeah... To save time I just edited the Mimiga Mask, called it "My Face." and had it so it's equiped from the very beginning. You can tell when during the transmission theres the <IT+ sound.
There are a few bugs here and there but I'm working on them.
Also there is one heath upgrade. But only one
 
Oct 17, 2018 at 9:54 PM
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Yeah... To save time I just edited the Mimiga Mask, called it "My Face." and had it so it's equiped from the very beginning. You can tell when during the transmission theres the <IT+ sound.
There are a few bugs here and there but I'm working on them.
Also there is one heath upgrade. But only one
if you just do <EQ+0064 will that equip the mimiga mask without having to have it in your inventory?
i havent tried it but you can if you want
 
Oct 17, 2018 at 10:06 PM
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if you just do <EQ+0064 will that equip the mimiga mask without having to have it in your inventory?
i havent tried it but you can if you want
The problem though is that the event happens during the "Incoming Transmission" and I don't know how to do it after so either or the bug will still exist.
Plus I decided to have fun with it and call it "My Face". Just to add a bit of humor into it.
 
Oct 21, 2018 at 9:20 PM
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Wait. Does editing the thread notify or only replies?
 
Oct 22, 2018 at 2:18 AM
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Wait. Does editing the thread notify or only replies?
It doesn't notify anybody or bump your thread on the main page. If you have important changes to announce (like a 1.2 version of your mod or something like that), you can post a reply describing the changes. Just don't overdo it.
 
Oct 22, 2018 at 2:42 AM
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Ok.....just uh....look at the top now.
 
Oct 22, 2018 at 4:09 AM
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Yeah, it's advised to make an update post alongside updating the OP, makes things a whole lot more convenient (especially when the thread has more than 1 page)
 
Oct 22, 2018 at 11:28 AM
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I'll keep that in mind next time
 
Oct 22, 2018 at 7:21 PM
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#18
Hipitty hop. A new mod atop.
The mountain of slow, looking at the townsfolk below.
A slave to the day, and pale but grave.
To whom once again ... can darkness bring pain?
-Keeping around the vanilla help information isn't really necessary, and usually comes off to most as a bit amateur. You can still make your own informational documents, although it is entirely unnecessary.

-This Quote-mimiga's eyes seem to be ... pointing the wrong way? Or is he perpetually distracted from his true task by the fourth wall?

-Ah, yes. <IT+ makes a noise when you use it, so you should probably give the player whatever item that was when they wake up in the First Cave.

-Oh shit yeah. A new map that doesn't look awful. Here, take 10 modder's tokens.

"incase"
-'In case' are two different words used in conjunction, not one word.

"Which happen five years ago...."
-'happen' should be in the past tense here, meaning it should be 'happened'. Also the ellipsis at the end (the '....') is 4 dots, where it is most common to use 3.

-Wait, so there isn't actually any readable diary here? I thought this was going to introduce the mod's back-story via exposition. A generally detested method of story-telling, but it can be better than nothing.

"Record what happened so far?"
-Well that's not what saving the game does, exactly. That's a very odd way to put something like that into words.

-Oh good, this sign next to the vanilla start point doesn't take me to the credits.

"Locked"
-You missed a full stop!

... "be home anyway..."
-What, is よつばさん dead?

"Denvile"
-I think you mean 'denville'. 'Vile' and 'ville' have entirely different meanings; and vile isn't a suffix.

-Well this place is just sort of the First Cave... these 'houses' kinda resemble shipping containers. Maybe give each of them more space, and expand on their design a little, or integrate them into the cave a little. Make the houses seem to fit perfectly into the area, rather than seeming added on.

"house.We"
-Oop, you forgot a space.

-So everyone here is dead??

"Amaya"
-Ooo the creator of Cave Story lives in his own fictitious world. That's some meta shit right there.

-It is indeed a Life Capsule.

"I can't use this..."
-REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

-Playing this right after Sonic Mania is really weird. It's like FAST FAST FA--youcan'tgofastinCaveStory

-Usually <TUR is used on the text of these signs to make it appear instantly.

Code:
Sorry about that<NOD
Last night the stairs<NOD
collapsed.<NOD There was
an earthquake before<CLR(etc.)
-You could rewrite this to be more like...
Code:
Sorry about that...<NOD
Last night the stairs
collapsed.<CLRThere was
an earthquake before (etc.)
"Though I don't trust her... Can you help me find Toroko?"
-I feel like there should be a conversational transition (i.e. change of topic) between these two things. Like:
"Although I don't trust her... but that's that. Now, could you help me find Toroko?"
-Without it, it seems really sudden and unrelated. Like:
"My mother is so stupid. My boyfriend broke up with me."

"Sure thing."
-Maybe give the player a facepic? I'm sure someone could help you a little with that if you're not the best with pixel art.

"Someone must have lost it..."
-You might want to put this text after the fanfale, and after a <CLR. That said, it's entirely obvious from the condition of the item itself that it belongs to somebody, and the player really needn't be told so.

-Why would Toroko mistake a mimiga for The Doctor anyway? Especially one she knows, too. You know, this is a pretty good opportunity to have some variation based on the fact that Quote is a mimiga. Perhaps instead of running away at the Reservoir, she could have a conversation with Quote and you could reveal some back-story, or characterise her and/or Quote a bit more. Who is Quote the mimiga? Why does he have an item for a face? Who are all the people who disappeared? Maybe Toroko remembers one of them? (other than her お兄ちゃん =3=)

"Is this only a dream?"
-Haha, you respawn by making the previous set of events non-canon. Hahahaha!

-Having the fanfare for the Life Capsules is really annoying when you can't use them, and then they just disappear for some reason. You should either delete them or make Quote comment on how he cannot use it/doesn't know what it is when you interact with it. (without the fanfare and it disappearing, that is)

-Also using the equals signs for sound effects is a bit of a misuse. They're meant to signify importance. You can use asterisks for sound effects. *click*

-Aaaand I'm done there. I don't think too much is different, although the first room showed some true promise. I think in future versions that you should try to do more with the fact that Quote is a mimiga, even having that somewhat small difference derail the entire plot and take it in a different direction. For instance:
*Quote has history with Toroko, so she never runs off to the shack.
*Balrog busts into the reservoir, and perhaps Kanpachi intervenes.
*Quote has to fight off Balrog and Misery to stop them from taking Toroko?
Or:
*You convince King to let Sue free, making going through Grasstown an optional task.

Also, if you need help with assembly editing, feel free to ask me.
 
Oct 22, 2018 at 8:22 PM
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Thank you very much
1. I am an amateur. I'm still learning how to do this shit and expanding this mod.
2. Lol, I never saw it like that. Thanks. I'll rework the sprite.
3.That item is the Mimiga Mask. Now dubbed "My Face." It's because I didn't want to rework the whole thing. So I just edited what I needed to edit
4. Thank you!
5. Spacebar.exe stopped working. Thank you for pointing that out.
6. Thank you and mistake.
7. No. It's to state the fact that he knows nothing of his life before those five years. Those five years is nothing really. The game takes place like a week or so after the doctor gets the crown.
8. It's him recording what happened so far in his diary. I should really make it a item. Reskin the beast fang and put sparkles on the bookshelf it's kept.
9. All the houses have signs. I figured since Mimiga Village has signs for location, I figured why not?
10. Period I take it? Thanks for pointing it out.
11. No. If you check Katsuya's door. Quote talks about being friends with them before the doctor took them away and wondering how he's been doing. You later meet him in Rest Area. He's the one that orignally said "I'm Exhausted" he still says that but then recognises your Quote and ask how you have been. The others can be presumed to be the other Mimigas in plantation that weren't named
12. Will make that edit.
13. I worked with what I have. But I'll try.
14. Again. Spacebar.exe stopped working.
15. See 11.
16. The names of the other Mimigas in DenVILLE are references to japanesse names from things of my childhood. Amaya was for the fact I first played Cave Story when I was 10.
17 & 18. I was feeling a little trolly and wanted to add logic to it because Mimiga can't use batteries. (At least, that's how I imagine them)
there is one health upgrade. Don't worry. The dog has learned a spell.
19.lol
20. Ah fuck. I forgot to edit those again.
21 & 22. Thank you, I will edit those.
23.That's why I asked....
24. Toroko is frighten due to Quote falling and dropping from the sky. I kinda imagine her being on edge due to the whole thing plus she says "with the doctor" refering to his lackeys. Though that is a good idea...
25. My plan is with this mod. Everything is more first person. So why would Quote ask the player to try again?
26."I can't use this." I'll figure out how to keep the capsules there. Though again. I was kinda in a trolly mood.
27.huh. I'll do that.
28 a. I can make it so Toroko was hiding from King. But the question is will she hit him?
28 b. "Sue's not here."
"Oh" *tooster leaves* kinda boring.
28 c. "I won't let you take her!"
"Try me!" Here you can tell he at least tried. Besides, fighting both of them while in that small space will be problematic and difficult. Also what if Misery teleported outside the shack area?
28 d. Is there any way to reason with King? When he was showing off "this is what happens to those who cause harm to the village" he might be too pissed to be reasoned. As stated "Does it look like I care?"


Also assembly was already edited
 
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Responses emboldened.
Thank you very much
1. I am an amateur. I'm still learning how to do this shit and expanding this mod.
That's fine.
3.That item is the Mimiga Mask. Now dubbed "My Face." It's because I didn't want to rework the whole thing. So I just edited what I needed to edit
Ah, you don't need the item to change Quote's sprite to the mimiga mask one, only the <EQ+ that's used when you get it. Also, you could basically just make the mimiga sprite Quote's default one, because nobody would really notice anyway.
In addition, I noticed that you're using .pbms. To make sprite editing easier I'd recommend going into Game Settings > Image File Extention and changing it to bmp, and then removing the "(C)Pixel" requirement for images. Then you can easily edit all of the files with Paint, paint.NET, GIMP, etc. Unfortunately CE's sprite editor is only really good for viewing image palettes.

4. Thank you!
No problem! Have a go at making a few more original maps to use around the mod, I think it would be pretty cool.
6. Thank you and mistake.
Once again, no problem. Also I think you meant "my mistake." ;3
7. No. It's to state the fact that he knows nothing of his life before those five years. Those five years is nothing really. The game takes place like a week or so after the doctor gets the crown.
Perhaps that could be conveyed some other way? If you were to have him talk to Toroko that could be brought up, or at a later point. The story needn't be clear at all at first. It definitely isn't in Cave Story.
8. It's him recording what happened so far in his diary. I should really make it a item. Reskin the beast fang and put sparkles on the bookshelf it's kept.
Ah. For that you could give the player a diary when they look at that bookshelf (and force them to get it before leaving the room, maybe they locked the door and the key for the door is with the diary), and then there are stray pens on bookshelves around the place that Quote uses to write in there with.
Just a suggestion though.

9. All the houses have signs. I figured since Mimiga Village has signs for location, I figured why not?
It would be nice to be able to go into these houses, even if it doesn't make much sense to you that people wouldn't lock their doors. I mean, it does sense to me, because the mimiga trust one another.
10. Period I take it? Thanks for pointing it out.
Yes, that's what a full-stop is. "Period" is an American-English word.
11. No. If you check Katsuya's door. Quote talks about being friends with them before the doctor took them away and wondering how he's been doing. You later meet him in Rest Area. He's the one that orignally said "I'm Exhausted" he still says that but then recognises your Quote and ask how you have been. The others can be presumed to be the other Mimigas in plantation that weren't named
Well... I would never have assumed that at all, but that could make for some interesting dialogue when they see one-another again.
13. I worked with what I have. But I'll try.
And don't worry if you end up changing the structure of the cave somewhat, a restructured First Cave would be welcome.
16. The names of the other Mimigas in DenVILLE are references to japanesse names from things of my childhood. Amaya was for the fact I first played Cave Story when I was 10.
Fair enough.
17 & 18. I was feeling a little trolly and wanted to add logic to it because Mimiga can't use batteries. (At least, that's how I imagine them)
there is one health upgrade. Don't worry. The dog has learned a spell.
I'm not worried about health upgrades. 5HP is pretty doable.
Just make sure that they don't waste the player's time.

23.That's why I asked....
Oh shoot you did. Sorry, I didn't read much of the OP because I thought it might spoil the mod.
24. Toroko is frighten due to Quote falling and dropping from the sky. I kinda imagine her being on edge due to the whole thing plus she says "with the doctor" refering to his lackeys. Though that is a good idea...
Hey, it needn't make that much sense, if it's an excuse to have something totally new happen I'm sure people would be very open to it.
25. My plan is with this mod. Everything is more first person. So why would Quote ask the player to try again?
Well the game over text needn't break the fourth wall then? It doesn't really need to be changed, it was just a funny observation.
28 a. I can make it so Toroko was hiding from King. But the question is will she hit him?

28 b. "Sue's not here."
"Oh" *toaster leaves* kinda boring.
Yeah, that's why I suggested a major confrontation. It would be pretty epic, no?
28 c. "I won't let you take her!"
"Try me!" Here you can tell he at least tried. Besides, fighting both of them while in that small space will be problematic and difficult. Also what if Misery teleported outside the shack area?
You can change the reservoir to meet your needs, make it harder to fall into the water, etc. I mean, you've already changed Quote into a mimiga and made the First Cave into a weird extension of the Mimiga Village, go nuts.
You can also edit the bosses as needed, I can help you with that if you'd like.

28 d. Is there any way to reason with King? When he was showing off "this is what happens to those who cause harm to the village" he might be too pissed to be reasoned. As stated "Does it look like I care?"
Maybe you could consult Toroko about it, and Quote could stand up to King for her? And then you could get her key off of her and use it to get to Arthur's House without needing to bother with the graveyard, which would still be minded by Jack.

Lastly, here's another thing to ponder over for you:
How does Quote usually get in and out of Denvil(l)e? Maybe there could be a more climbable way to get back up there.

Also assembly was already edited
Yes, but as far as I saw it was mostly bullet-stat edits?
P.S. please use the edit post button! .3.
 
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