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Cave Story - Rise of Ballos

What do you think of this mod, and why? Please tick only 1 of the first 5, and please don't troll.

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  • Needs more levels

  • Needs to be easier

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  • Needs clearer storyline

  • Needs more work on level design

  • Needs more dialogue/characters

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May 24, 2016 at 11:27 PM
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#81
... and part two of my notes.


IT'S FINE IF THEY HAVE POOR EYESIGHT AND (unaffected by water physics) SLOW MOVEMENT
:^) :^) :^)


shit level design etc. etc.
also the spikes are the wrong kind of spikes; they are treated as spikes above water, not spikes underwater


oh good, you kept this completely unneccessary bullshit in too
thanks


cancer


an exp crystal fell through that spike, so i assume there's a secret down there
but if you think i'm going to willingly take at least 10 damage for possibly nothing but fake blocks
there's something wrong with you


i've apparently turned into jesus


gee
i sure wish this was like regular cave story, where this would be a missile launcher and not a useless capsule
given that i missed that easily missable missile launcher boss





that's not how doors work


what the fuck


creative/10


YOU DON'T SAY?


what the fuck is wrong with you


I ALREADY GOT THIS YOU FUCK


btw, i was still able to go from the Resevoir to here via the upper door
why





>use the life pot
>don't use the cure-all
>mimiga dies

>use cure-all
>no immediate response
>inspect again
>randomly asks me to rummage in his pockets
>refuse
>mimiga dies

>rummage in his pockets
>get Spikes
>mimiga lives

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


sue served quite literally no purpose whatsoever
and "Luck" should be "luck"


FINALLY
also original/10 inscription

this entire village is just as shitty as it was when i played it months ago
literally nothing has changed except for the inclusion of that cthulhu's house
fix it already
no, seriously

plot dumps supplied by Booster are not acceptable in the slightest


why do i have both





that uh
that most likely wouldn't work my dude
and paint is still bad for you


for what purpose


i like how literally nothing told me to go get this


what's behind DOOOOOR NUMBER TWO?
(please no crash)


even worse


ow the edge


>use it
>die
>can't restart because you didn't close the fucking inventory screen
nice/10


i am become merQuote
swimmer of water





oh no
sharp grass
IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE


get those pink shrooms out of here
there are children on this site


wha


fuck you ok


darn
now i can't break the mod a third time


finally, a decent looking design
oh wait :^)


i can't begin to even


EXCUSE YOU


if you think i'm restarting you have another thing coming


effort/10


fair/10


that fake block is bullshit


we minecraft now


>inspect fire above the tnt trap
>get shat out here


i slept in a bed and those aren't ellipses


curly why are you so fucking useless


you do know there's nothing stopping me from falling off the screen to the left and entering this hell again, right?


this wall doesn't even go away
i have to fly over it
how much lazier can you possibly get


so?
why can't I just keep walking?


help i'm stuck in an infinite loop thanks to your shit tsc

To be continued...
mods pls no delete
 
May 24, 2016 at 11:30 PM
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#82
... and the final third of my notes.


what


nice text box fam


i just
what

i like how misery implied that she was giving me something to help me
yet i got literally nothing


what amnesia


this isn't something Curly would say
also "didn't" should be "don't"


how am i supposed to get to grasstown then


WHY DID YOU WAIT UNTIL NOW TO GIVE THIS TO ME?

i just got slapped across the room by booster
1. out of character
2. jesus he's swole


i activated sand zone before booster slapped me
but why the heck is egg corridor there

going to sand zone because i'm a rebel

do you have a fetish for fake block mazes or something
because it's a shit fetish


ayy lmao


well that was easy


what is happening


i like how i'm reading this now and not before i fought the "Beserk" Core

what was the point of all of those yes/no prompts given by Jenka back in Mimiga Village

next up: egg corridor


i'm speechless


hi

it's disgusting how many yellow critters there are
you even hid some behind signs
but it's fine because they have bad eyesight and slow jumps :^)


original


nice try


why do you think each and every save room needs at least one random instant kill pit


ok
i like how this doorway is fucking 1-way





f


well then what the fuck was the point of all this

fine i'll go to grasstown
i like how i could have skipped a huge chunk of the game entirely if i went here from chaba's shop


GIVE ME MORE MACHINE GUN AMMO ALREADY


what are butes doing in grasstown


thank you based purple bunny lady


"going" should be "doing"

>sleep in Chaco's bed
>wake up
>no lipstick
0/10 uninstalling this mod


you're in to some fucked up stuff, santa


an unneccessary amount to be completely honest


you what


thanks fam


why do these have so much health


rude

can you please explain to me why the level 3 Explosive is weaker than the level 2 Explosive?


why is this just, like, HERE





just when i thought it couldn't get any worse
you surprise me


gee, i wonder why this sand is here


nailed it


STOP GIVING ME MISSILES


it's like you want me to instantly die


ah yes
this is where i died months ago


ENOUGH
OF
THESE

also this remix of White isn't that great to be honest


well would you look at that
a dead end
looks like someone forgot to place a fake block


shitty design etc. etc.


ENOUGH


and now gaudi because lmao why not


why is this random air current here

I NEED A SAVE


that works too


define "Extremely useful and powerful."


wew


wait why am i here


oh


EXCUSE ME?
I WAS FLYING WITH THE MACHINE GUN
WAS GOING TO LAND ON THAT RED BLOCK
AND THEN I JUST CEASE TO EXIST

AND THERE HASN'T BEEN A SAVE IN AGES

AND I CAN'T EVEN GIVE MYSELF UNLIMITED HEALTH OR AMMO BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO BE A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE WITH YOUR SAVES


it's bad
it's very bad
 
May 25, 2016 at 6:28 AM
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#83
... and the final third of my notes.


what


nice text box fam


i just
what

i like how misery implied that she was giving me something to help me
yet i got literally nothing


what amnesia


this isn't something Curly would say
also "didn't" should be "don't"


how am i supposed to get to grasstown then


WHY DID YOU WAIT UNTIL NOW TO GIVE THIS TO ME?

i just got slapped across the room by booster
1. out of character
2. jesus he's swole


i activated sand zone before booster slapped me
but why the heck is egg corridor there

going to sand zone because i'm a rebel

do you have a fetish for fake block mazes or something
because it's a shit fetish


ayy lmao


well that was easy


what is happening


i like how i'm reading this now and not before i fought the "Beserk" Core

what was the point of all of those yes/no prompts given by Jenka back in Mimiga Village

next up: egg corridor


i'm speechless


hi

it's disgusting how many yellow critters there are
you even hid some behind signs
but it's fine because they have bad eyesight and slow jumps :^)


original


nice try


why do you think each and every save room needs at least one random instant kill pit


ok
i like how this doorway is fucking 1-way





f


well then what the fuck was the point of all this

fine i'll go to grasstown
i like how i could have skipped a huge chunk of the game entirely if i went here from chaba's shop


GIVE ME MORE MACHINE GUN AMMO ALREADY


what are butes doing in grasstown


thank you based purple bunny lady


"going" should be "doing"

>sleep in Chaco's bed
>wake up
>no lipstick
0/10 uninstalling this mod


you're in to some fucked up stuff, santa


an unneccessary amount to be completely honest


you what


thanks fam


why do these have so much health


rude

can you please explain to me why the level 3 Explosive is weaker than the level 2 Explosive?


why is this just, like, HERE





just when i thought it couldn't get any worse
you surprise me


gee, i wonder why this sand is here


nailed it


STOP GIVING ME MISSILES


it's like you want me to instantly die


ah yes
this is where i died months ago


ENOUGH
OF
THESE

also this remix of White isn't that great to be honest


well would you look at that
a dead end
looks like someone forgot to place a fake block


shitty design etc. etc.


ENOUGH


and now gaudi because lmao why not


why is this random air current here

I NEED A SAVE


that works too


define "Extremely useful and powerful."


wew


wait why am i here


oh


EXCUSE ME?
I WAS FLYING WITH THE MACHINE GUN
WAS GOING TO LAND ON THAT RED BLOCK
AND THEN I JUST CEASE TO EXIST

AND THERE HASN'T BEEN A SAVE IN AGES

AND I CAN'T EVEN GIVE MYSELF UNLIMITED HEALTH OR AMMO BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO BE A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE WITH YOUR SAVES


it's bad
it's very bad
*Insert me reading your post bit by bit and hoping that you wouldn't go further with your messed-up run*
Okay yeah I haven't been doing much level design because I've been doing mainly asm. But I'm really trying to fix this as fast am I can.
The expansions aren't all missiles. Some are Fireballs, which you couldn't get if you already had the Machine Gun, and there also are a few ones for the Explosive.
The Explosive may seem useless, but you can combine it with the Fireball to get the Firework Explosive, then upgrade to the Cluster Firework Explosive later on.
You aren't meant to go to Grasstown or Egg Corridor early game, I'll fix that. Basically after getting Misery's Sceptre, the yellow critters are one-shot kill!
I'll probably also increase the amount the Life Capsules give you.
Currently in the process of exterminating Yellow Critters from reality
I can't really fix the glitch with the lava, but I'll try and make sure you can't get to the bottom of the map.
There are 5 types of Flying Gaudi, they shoot different types of projectiles;
Basic Projectile (Red), 16 damage, 2 HP.
Red Blade, 8 damage, 16 HP, bounces off walls.
Core Blade, 5 damage, 6 HP, goes through walls.
Red Energy Ball, 7 damage, invincible.
The last type of Gaudi shoots a random projectile.
The reason that the red projectile does 16 is because it is so easy to block.
Also, I'm trying to delete the dead end.
Once you unsave once, or die once in Ballos' curse, your save gets deleted, but it makes it so that it won't happen again, so you have to do it asap. There is a place with Ballos' curse accessible in the First Cave, but obviously you'd missed it by exiting via the door.
The Labyrinth M lava corridor now has legit blocks instead of fake ones.
You'd probably gotten the Turbocharge because of the Machine Gun Glitch earlier, but it doesn't actually have an effect if you get it that way.
I'd never actually wanted yellow critters in the Waterway, they were supposed to be Blue and Red ones.
The air pocket wasn't even meant to be there lol.
Also I might have accidentally corrupted the White remix, put in a fresh copy and corrupted that as well
I've already fixed the Missile Launcher, but why didn't you save hack it in? Lol
 
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#84
Okay, if you don't fix literally any other part of this mod, AT LEAST take out "unsaving". That's got to be the worst mechanic I've ever seen in a game. It's not fun, it's bullshit and extremely demoralizing to the player. It's the easiest way to make your player immediately quit playing, which is the opposite of what you should want as a game designer.
 
May 25, 2016 at 1:48 PM
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#85
Okay, if you don't fix literally any other part of this mod, AT LEAST take out "unsaving". That's got to be the worst mechanic I've ever seen in a game. It's not fun, it's bullshit and extremely demoralizing to the player. It's the easiest way to make your player immediately quit playing, which is the opposite of what you should want as a game designer.
Yeah...

Okay, new update coming. Removed Save Deletion, as that just seemed to make people annoyed rather than satisfied...
Greatly reduced the amount of Yellow Critters early-game
Removed random Rainbow Critter in Frosty Grotto
Patched Machine Gun glitch
Boosted some Life Capsules
Made Labyrinth H path much easier (Just follow the starblocks)
Fixed landing on the red bricks in Outer Wall
Fixed being able to visit Grasstown/Egg Corridor early game
Allowed escape from dead end in Labyrinth G
*Allowed player to skip entire first part of the mod, only for people who ceebs
Removed being able to leave the First Cave through the right side door
Reduced the damage of Pink Critters when they land directly on you
Fixed White remix
Fixed a few level design errors
Fixed a few text errors
Maybe I mentioned this before, but Blue Fuzzes now take 8 frames to regen
Going through a one-way block now refills air in the Waterway (hopefully)
Reduced sight range of the Yellow Critter (Now they are so easy to avoid I'm going to regret this).
Allowed Missile pickups to refill pretty much every weapon (Including those that recharge slowly by themselves)
This update was really rushed, so I might've missed some things. Pls tell me if you find more bugs.
Also, fyi, all damage to the player greater than 3 is randomised; the higher the number, the more random the damage.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l274webl3vv89ag/Rise_of_Ballos_v0.8.0.7.zip?dl=0
I'm probably going to put death spikes in the rising lava later, because that's probably the only way to prevent the player going down where the lava isn't rendered.
nice high-jumping, flying, shooting critter
i like how it's possible to completely miss this room entirely if you accidentally shoot down at all
just what this well designed mod needed
an ice level
good use of spikes tbh fam
boy do i love pure, unadulterated enemy spam
i like how misery implied that she was giving me something to help me
i like how i'm reading this now and not before i fought the "Beserk" Core
i like how i could have skipped a huge chunk of the game entirely if i went here from chaba's shop
and now gaudi because lmao why not
that works too
Sometimes it's hard to tell whether you're being sarcastic...

P.S. I made this mod with my time and posted it on the forum for people to enjoy, not to say that only two parts are good and everything else is either a clusterfuck or shit level design. Especially people who have never tried the mod themselves and just try to agree with what other people said by looking at the screenshots of the bad areas. 'Every level is fucking awfully designed.' He said. Yeah. Okay. Very constructive feedback right there
 
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#86
*Insert me reading your post bit by bit and hoping that you wouldn't go further with your messed-up run*
If I was already breaking the game, I wanted to see just how much more I could break it. It is my job as a tester of the mod, of course.

Okay yeah I haven't been doing much level design because I've been doing mainly asm. But I'm really trying to fix this as fast am I can.
Nobody will care how many tricks you can pull with assembly if your level designs are utter garbage. You need to seriously hold back on the assembly and work on the actual meat of the mod.
It's nice to hear that you're at least thinking about fixing the level design, but again, level design > ASM. Nobody will care that you made Omega II shoot spiked balls if they can't even get out of First Cave.

The Explosive may seem useless, but you can combine it with the Fireball to get the Firework Explosive, then upgrade to the Cluster Firework Explosive later on.
I managed to get to and receive Misery's Scepter before getting the Fireball. You'd think that I would've gotten the Fireball by then.

Currently in the process of exterminating Yellow Critters from reality
Reduced sight range of the Yellow Critter (Now they are so easy to avoid I'm going to regret this).
If you want a slow, tough critter so badly, you could just, y'know, make them not one-hit-kill you. Speaking of slow, tough critters, the black critters having double the health of the yellow ones is a little overkill, no?

You'd probably gotten the Turbocharge because of the Machine Gun Glitch earlier, but it doesn't actually have an effect if you get it that way.
I honestly don't know when it appeared in my inventory, but it did have an effect. I could actually use the level 3 Machine Gun as a jetpack and not worry about running out of bullets due to how fast they came back.

The air pocket wasn't even meant to be there lol.
Then how were you supposed to get through that area without drowning?

I've already fixed the Missile Launcher, but why didn't you save hack it in? Lol
I couldn't hack my save because you decided to be a special snowflake and turn your save data into .bat files, which my save editor can't read.

Okay, new update coming. Removed Save Deletion, as that just seemed to make people annoyed rather than satisfied...
as that just seemed to make people annoyed rather than satisfied...
How could you possibly think deleting the player's save would make them feel SATISFIED? Now I'm really glad I never took the bait and clicked Yes on those unsave points. I would have had to redo hours of hellishly designed levels.

Allowed player to skip entire first part of the mod, only for people who ceebs
ceebs??

Maybe I mentioned this before, but Blue Fuzzes now take 8 frames to regen
As long as they actually die this time, I'm fine with it.

Allowed Missile pickups to refill pretty much every weapon (Including those that recharge slowly by themselves)
Thank you. It was extremely odd that picking up the Explosive caused missile pickups to spawn even though they didn't refill its ammo.

Sometimes it's hard to tell whether you're being sarcastic...
gitgud

P.S. I made this mod with my time and posted it on the forum for people to enjoy, not to say that only two parts are good and everything else is either a clusterfuck or shit level design. Especially people who have never tried the mod themselves and just try to agree with what other people said by looking at the screenshots of the bad areas. 'Every level is fucking awfully designed.' He said. Yeah. Okay. Very constructive feedback right there
Sometimes the truth hurts. People don't have to play a mod in order to tell that the levels are designed poorly; I took enough screenshots that conveyed how bad the design was. Honestly, I don't know if I feel up to slogging back through the mod again considering how nothing in your changelog implies that you so much as touched the levels despite how insistent we are on the matter.
 
May 25, 2016 at 8:42 PM
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#87
If I was already breaking the game, I wanted to see just how much more I could break it. It is my job as a tester of the mod, of course.



It's nice to hear that you're at least thinking about fixing the level design, but again, level design > ASM. Nobody will care that you made Omega II shoot spiked balls if they can't even get out of First Cave.


I managed to get to and receive Misery's Scepter before getting the Fireball. You'd think that I would've gotten the Fireball by then.



If you want a slow, tough critter so badly, you could just, y'know, make them not one-hit-kill you. Speaking of slow, tough critters, the black critters having double the health of the yellow ones is a little overkill, no?


I honestly don't know when it appeared in my inventory, but it did have an effect. I could actually use the level 3 Machine Gun as a jetpack and not worry about running out of bullets due to how fast they came back.


Then how were you supposed to get through that area without drowning?


I couldn't hack my save because you decided to be a special snowflake and turn your save data into .bat files, which my save editor can't read.




How could you possibly think deleting the player's save would make them feel SATISFIED? Now I'm really glad I never took the bait and clicked Yes on those unsave points. I would have had to redo hours of hellishly designed levels.


ceebs??


As long as they actually die this time, I'm fine with it.


Thank you. It was extremely odd that picking up the Explosive caused missile pickups to spawn even though they didn't refill its ammo.


gitgud


Sometimes the truth hurts. People don't have to play a mod in order to tell that the levels are designed poorly; I took enough screenshots that conveyed how bad the design was. Honestly, I don't know if I feel up to slogging back through the mod again considering how nothing in your changelog implies that you so much as touched the levels despite how insistent we are on the matter.
About the saves: it's probably just the file extension; if that is the case you can just rename the extension and use your save editor on them.
 
May 25, 2016 at 8:57 PM
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About the saves: it's probably just the file extension; if that is the case you can just rename the extension and use your save editor on them.
I tried that already.







 
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I tried that already.







You didn't actually change the extension, it's still a batch file. You need to disable this in order to change it:
EDIT: GIR beat me to it

Also, xin, I have a question for you: why
 
May 25, 2016 at 9:09 PM
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You didn't actually change the file extension, you just made a file here called "Profile.dat.bat". You need to make file extensions visible to change them this way.

Please use the following guide, or google "how to make file extensions visible" for your operating system:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/show-hide-file-name-extensions
Ohh. I don't think I was using Windows 10 when playing this months ago, so extensions were on by default.

EDIT: Okay so I went back to play through more of the mod because I've clearly lost my mind. Has to be split into two parts again because the forums cannot handle all these errors and memes.

i want off mr. xin's wild ride


i have been educated
now to see how deep this mimiga hole goes


i just took 128 damage from one of Grasstown's ghost things
you know
the ones you gave 5 gorillion health


ohhey
a secret i missed
it's a good thing I CAN'T FUCKING PICK IT UP


nevermind fuck this shit
*flies away from the island with the machine gun flamethrower*


why do you have all this extra map here
it's probably what is causing the map system to glitch out


golly
that sure was a lot less stressful when i didn't have to worry about instantly dying


that isn't how you spell "Scepter" by the way


>extremely powerful and useful
>doesn't even damage enemies
ok


that's not a machine gun


what the actual fuck am i looking at

>accidentally grab some experience for the Scepter
>levels up to 3
>oh god it's the Nemesis all over again
>fire it
>fires slow diamond
>pierces through wall and evaporates nearby fuzzies
o k


this is kind of silly to be honest
this literally does 127 damage per shot


why isn't that solid you butt


WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO STAND


you're not a door


EHH??


what is this even for


*confused Seasons noises*

there still hasn't been a save yet
even after that entire climb
did a save point kill your parents or something?


nice meme you fuck
no but why the fuck did you do this
after all the level design complaints you've gotten
these spikes weren't here before the update
so you went and put these here KNOWING IT WAS WRONG

what do you even want from me
do I need to backtrack?
where do i GO


oh right this door is here
but how do i get to it


since when did that get there


no


>go through door
>remember that the black critter was right there
>jump
>barely avoid taking damage
stop placing these fuckers right next to doorways
i thought you learned that this was bad after the yellow critter incident in Sand Zone


i can't believe it
an actual save point
i thought they had gone extinct


gonna be mildly upset if the key doesn't go to this door


wha

also why the heck did you place a falling spike right above the door
you fuck


>walk underneath enclosement
>get squished by raining elephants
fuck you

these things have more health than black critters (250)
and do OVER 400 DAMAGE ON CONTACT WHILE CHARGING


and they turn into sonic


oh good, it's the yellow critter meme


wake me up from this nightmare


when did i get a sprinkler


just what this place needed
random moving blocks


just what this place needed
a random fake block maze


i can't even fucking break this because i have no weapons that aim downwards
10/10 design right there


why is this path even here


WHAT


you still haven't explained what these are for


what


uhh ok


fr*cking rainbow critters get out of my game


good ol' fashioned enemy spam
because WHY NOT???


why is this even here


?????????????????????????????????????????
where do i go then?

To be continued...
 
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... and here's the second part.


and NOW i can go back???
wh


simply epic


THIS IS FINE BECAUSE I NERFED THEIR EYESIGHT EVEN MORE
:^) :^) :^)


DON'T WORRY GUYS I EXTERMINATED THE YELLOW CRITTERS FROM EXISTENCE
:^) :^) :^)


HIDING THESE THINGS BEHIND SIGNS IS FINE BECAUSE THEIR EYESIGHT IS SO TERRIBLE NOW
TRUST ME GUYS :^) :^) :^)


because these presses are literally invulnerable
i needed the level 3 blade to break the starblocks holding them up
if i didn't choose the blade at the start of the game i would have been trapped here forever
10/10 design right there



hhhhhhhehehe


SAVE ME FROM THIS HELL


it's grossly overpowered
that's what it can do


MorePlotDumpWithNoBreaksInsertedAnywhereInTheTextIsMyFavoriteWayToBeExposedToThePlot


???

hold on
are you implying that i need to go through the ballos path thing
AGAIN?


where the heck did jenka go

brb lemme just uh
grab jenka from sand zone again


African American Orb*


first jenka said four orbs
now she says three
can't into math


>making me backtrack to that cancer again
noooOOOO


gee
i wish i knew this sooner
like when i was actually in the areas with the keys


ez pz

ok i thought the game crashed for a second
there's entirely too much time between pressing Z and that dialogue box closing


well that wasn't there before


that chest is new
and STILL in a shitty place


ahahahaHHAHAAHAH

hey i wonder if you fixed that first cave crash


nope


wow you DO expect me to do this again
fucking WHY


The Pinnacle of Shitty Level Design 2: Electric Boogaloo
ft. Falling Blocks That Probably Instakill You

>touch one of the tall brown spikes that used to do over 200 damage
>only does 8 damage
i don't believe you


oh my god
you finally did something right


honey i'm home~


are you really coming


welp
i just fell out of the map


and into the intro cutscene


how


this had better have been worth it
i had to physically leave the mod to get to this


what


"you" should be "You"


whoa what when where why what the fuck


invisible walls mean nothing to this man


stop misspelling scepter aaaaaaaa


extremely long wait here
too long


jenka told me this already


making the player wait for literally 30 seconds for something to happen with the controls locked is a bad idea
i thought the game crashed again


gee whiz this looks familiar
and "ths" should be "this"


that's not how Hell worked


nice random spike you got there


oh great
it's this meme again


awesome design
and by awesome i mean trash


these are supposed to be solid


ok wise guy
how was i supposed to know that this was accessible


you what my dude


wrong tiles


you didn't even force me to talk to curly
11/10


what rope


what the fuck is this


fuck you ok

i can't even use it


ok




oh god everything is spikes

i find it hilarious how HELL'S enemies are more balanced than your critter army


of all the things to break
how did you manage to break the Deletes


thank you based xin
for another upgrade i can't staple to my gun


you can't be serious


thanks for making me fight the heavy press
with all this bullshit in the way
and no curly for extra dps


that looks like the fun time hole


pardon???

help i've fallen into hell and i can't get up


haha oh wow
it seems like your mod broke again
what a surprise!

seems like i can stop playing
for now

bad
 
May 26, 2016 at 7:24 AM
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#93
... and here's the second part.


and NOW i can go back???
wh


simply epic


THIS IS FINE BECAUSE I NERFED THEIR EYESIGHT EVEN MORE
:^) :^) :^)


DON'T WORRY GUYS I EXTERMINATED THE YELLOW CRITTERS FROM EXISTENCE
:^) :^) :^)


HIDING THESE THINGS BEHIND SIGNS IS FINE BECAUSE THEIR EYESIGHT IS SO TERRIBLE NOW
TRUST ME GUYS :^) :^) :^)


because these presses are literally invulnerable
i needed the level 3 blade to break the starblocks holding them up
if i didn't choose the blade at the start of the game i would have been trapped here forever
10/10 design right there



hhhhhhhehehe


SAVE ME FROM THIS HELL


it's grossly overpowered
that's what it can do


MorePlotDumpWithNoBreaksInsertedAnywhereInTheTextIsMyFavoriteWayToBeExposedToThePlot


???

hold on
are you implying that i need to go through the ballos path thing
AGAIN?


where the heck did jenka go

brb lemme just uh
grab jenka from sand zone again


African American Orb*


first jenka said four orbs
now she says three
can't into math


>making me backtrack to that cancer again
noooOOOO


gee
i wish i knew this sooner
like when i was actually in the areas with the keys


ez pz

ok i thought the game crashed for a second
there's entirely too much time between pressing Z and that dialogue box closing


well that wasn't there before


that chest is new
and STILL in a shitty place


ahahahaHHAHAAHAH

hey i wonder if you fixed that first cave crash


nope


wow you DO expect me to do this again
fucking WHY


The Pinnacle of Shitty Level Design 2: Electric Boogaloo
ft. Falling Blocks That Probably Instakill You

>touch one of the tall brown spikes that used to do over 200 damage
>only does 8 damage
i don't believe you


oh my god
you finally did something right


honey i'm home~


are you really coming


welp
i just fell out of the map


and into the intro cutscene


how


this had better have been worth it
i had to physically leave the mod to get to this


what


"you" should be "You"


whoa what when where why what the fuck


invisible walls mean nothing to this man


stop misspelling scepter aaaaaaaa


extremely long wait here
too long


jenka told me this already


making the player wait for literally 30 seconds for something to happen with the controls locked is a bad idea
i thought the game crashed again


gee whiz this looks familiar
and "ths" should be "this"


that's not how Hell worked


nice random spike you got there


oh great
it's this meme again


awesome design
and by awesome i mean trash


these are supposed to be solid


ok wise guy
how was i supposed to know that this was accessible


you what my dude


wrong tiles


you didn't even force me to talk to curly
11/10


what rope


what the fuck is this


fuck you ok

i can't even use it


ok




oh god everything is spikes

i find it hilarious how HELL'S enemies are more balanced than your critter army


of all the things to break
how did you manage to break the Deletes


thank you based xin
for another upgrade i can't staple to my gun


you can't be serious


thanks for making me fight the heavy press
with all this bullshit in the way
and no curly for extra dps


that looks like the fun time hole


pardon???

help i've fallen into hell and i can't get up


haha oh wow
it seems like your mod broke again
what a surprise!

seems like i can stop playing
for now

bad
Shit
You skipped a part of the mod again
You used the broken save you had before
That's why most of the plot doesn't make sense
Also I hadn't fixed the part before that
And you couldn't progress because of my failsafe with profiles.
Also the Missile Launcher Level 3 is capable of breaking starblocks beside/below you
Level 2 or 3 Fireball can break starblocks too
So can the Northern Star, which has bullets spreading through walls
Also...
stop misspelling scepter aaaaaaaa
'Beserk' was a typo, but I'm pretty sure it's actually spelt 'Sceptre.'
why do you have all this extra map here
it's probably what is causing the map system to glitch out
That's intentional. I didn't want the player to see the map, as sometimes I use the same map for multiple purposes (Like the intro cutscenes). Obviously that didn't work for Outer Wall; I'll fix that later as well AAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH
Is there any GOOD part of the mod you can say? All those assembly hacks and original concepts like upside down death spikes, new weapons, original music and remixes and things like that which I actually spent time on. You seem to be only trying to find the bad parts, especially you trying to break the game further with the already outdated and messed up save data!
 
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May 26, 2016 at 8:34 AM
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#94
Is there any GOOD part of the mod you can say? All those assembly hacks and original concepts like upside down death spikes, new weapons, original music and remixes and things like that which I actually spent time on. You seem to be only trying to find the bad parts
It's hard to point out good things when there are a lot of other bad things.
The custom weapons are awesome, but the spikefields, invisible mazes and some other things really distract you from it.

especially you trying to break the game further with the already outdated and messed up save data!
You aren't expecting someone to actually start a new game like that, aren't you?
 
May 26, 2016 at 8:50 AM
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#95
It's hard to point out good things when there are a lot of other bad things.
The custom weapons are awesome, but the spikefields, invisible mazes and some other things really distract you from it.


You aren't expecting someone to actually start a new game like that, aren't you?
I'd implemented an option to skip the First Cave section, so yes. The mazes aren't invisible, it's super easy to find the fake blocks in those

EDIT:
Oh yeah, Seasons, did you notice that I allowed the machine gun to fire even when you had no ammo? It fires slowly BTW
 
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May 26, 2016 at 9:07 AM
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#96
I'd implemented an option to skip the First Cave section, so yes.
In Seasons' case, you'd still have to go through Sand Zone, Labyrinth, Mimiga Village, Ballos' Path twice, Grasstown, Bottom of the island, Outer Wall and Egg Corridor after skipping the First Cave just to get to where you were before restarting, just so you can get further in the story.
Even with cheating that is quite somewhat.
did you notice that I allowed the machine gun to fire even when you had no ammo?
What is the point of ammo then?!
 
May 26, 2016 at 10:07 AM
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#97
In Seasons' case, you'd still have to go through Sand Zone, Labyrinth, Mimiga Village, Ballos' Path twice, Grasstown, Bottom of the island, Outer Wall and Egg Corridor after skipping the First Cave just to get to where you were before restarting, just so you can get further in the story.
Even with cheating that is quite somewhat.

What is the point of ammo then?!
Ammo now recharges while shooting, as well as recharging when you have no ammo, however it recharges slower than the Level 3 version uses ammo.
 
May 26, 2016 at 1:20 PM
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#98
, but I'm pretty sure it's actually spelt 'Sceptre.'
This should be correct for non-American spelling.

From this point on I'd like there to be a good amount less of getting hung up over every little detail of the mod, particularly areas that aren't supposed to be accessible yet. It's not as though anyone's being forced to play this (or not test with hax) or that it's not actively being worked on and nothing can be changed.

Having said that I do agree with the sentiment that releases be designed to go up to a certain point, with the uncompleted areas be properly inaccessible until the earlier parts are ready to go, at least from a mapping perspective.
 
May 26, 2016 at 3:12 PM
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#99
Also the Missile Launcher Level 3 is capable of breaking starblocks beside/below you
Level 2 or 3 Fireball can break starblocks too
So can the Northern Star, which has bullets spreading through walls
That implies that I was supposed to have any of those by the time I got to the maze, when in reality it was likely that what few weapons I had were too deleveled to do anything. The Blade needed to be at least level 3, I had completely missed the Missile Launcher, I had completely missed the Fireball, and I chose the Blade over the Northern Star.

Is there any GOOD part of the mod you can say? All those assembly hacks and original concepts like upside down death spikes, new weapons, original music and remixes and things like that which I actually spent time on. You seem to be only trying to find the bad parts, especially you trying to break the game further with the already outdated and messed up save data!
Yes. Aside from the absolutely ridiculous critter and falling icicle spam, the ice level was pretty neat. There hasn't been any kind of ice physics before, so it was fun to rush down the tunnel at top speed. The lava tank was also pretty creative aside from plastering death spikes onto its ceiling. Having to slow my descent with crumbling platforms and moving blocks caught me off guard, but it was something that I never had to do before in a mod.

From this point on I'd like there to be a good amount less of getting hung up over every little detail of the mod, particularly areas that aren't supposed to be accessible yet. It's not as though anyone's being forced to play this (or not test with hax) or that it's not actively being worked on and nothing can be changed.
That's the point of testing, though. You need to point out what is wrong with the mod so it can be fixed later; this mod just has a lot of polishing that needs to be done. It's not like I could tell when the mod was supposed to end. One map just lead to another which lead to another and so on. Not my fault the forums have an image limit of 100 per post...

All that really matters is that the earlier sections of the mod get more attention before more sections are added onto it. For example, I hope that First Cave gets a redesign instead of getting ignored due to the skip he put in.
 
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Shit
Is there any GOOD part of the mod you can say? All those assembly hacks and original concepts like upside down death spikes, new weapons, original music and remixes and things like that which I actually spent time on. You seem to be only trying to find the bad parts, especially you trying to break the game further with the already outdated and messed up save data!
no. a concept that sucks still sucks, no matter how long you were on the loo shitting it out.

the level with the rising lava before berserk fuckfest was pretty decently designed though
 
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