Katawa Shoujo?

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  1. Feb 6, 2012
    JiNXeD
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    I wouldn't say so exactly. I'm more emotionally touched by more real-time tragedies. Like when I left Curly to die the first time I played Cave Story, and then when I realised that I could've saved her. I just felt guilty. Katawa Shoujo is a pretty slow-paced novel, and I don't get that touched from reading, unless it's something personal. I still wouldn't cry over a game, unless it was something very special that had something which made me very interested in it.
     
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    Teehee.
    I've never played it, I'm just making fun of myself.
    But I'd imagine it probably does not have stellar writing.
     
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    I'm only endorsing this visual novel because it's the only story that's made me feel anything in a long time. When Toroko died, I thought "Boss defeated! Wait, I was supposed to be sad." When Curly died, I thought "Aw shit, that can't be good." When (Half-Life 2 Episode 2 has been out for almost 5 years, I feel comfortable saying this) Eli died, I thought "Fuuuuuck I'm definitely supposed to be sad, aren't I?"
    Rin's story in Katawa Shoujo didn't make me cry but it certainly moved me. Which is impressive.
    Now, I might have to spell this out for some of you dumbasses: if you cynically breeze through the novel expecting it to become magically spellbinding and make you cry your heart out just because you read it, stop it and go read Tom Clancy or something. You get out what you put in. If you are trying not to enjoy yourself, you won't. This should be fairly obvious but something makes me think it has to be said.
     
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    See but if I read through it it should become spellbinding (or interesting); That's what well written books do you know. I shouldn't have to try too hard to like it, or else the writing's not doing its job.
     
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    That is not how things work. If you don't want to like them, then you will generally end up not liking them.
     
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    Well I play the game at 4AM, (the time when the brain is in the emotional state) and I focus on the story completely. Still, it doesn't manage to move me. Novels don't, really.
     
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    Well yes but you shouldn't have to actively try to like it. You have to should approach it neutrally.
     
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    I guess so. I don't see the harm in trying to enjoy things, but a neutral stance is acceptable.
     
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    Now I kind of wish this didn't have so much hype and that I shut the hell up about this. It seems like anyone trying it at this point is just being forced into it rather than taking a genuine interest in it. And that's not cool.
     
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    Yeah that's no good. But if they're forced to play something and they actually like it, why get upset?

    My only confusion is when GIR asked "why's it so good anyway" and then people tell him all the reasons it's good he says "you telling me it's good is making me hate it."
    Not even talking about this game, I have never experienced hype aversion in my entire life...

    Also GIR what's the problem with trying to enjoy things? If I try to enjoy something and I enjoy it, who cares if I came in with a bias or was neutral? I still enjoyed it D:
     
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    I got into this game before I even knew everyone was so wacky about it. I actually was browsing the four hams and saw Kage post about it in like, 2009. I saw a character sheet on gurochan way before that and thought "Hey, why not?". I played it for a bit and then got distracted, until you came and told me I gotta play it. Then I just suggested it to Fab and sexpy and....wow.

    And I honestly do enloy it. But I am usually one to experience hype aversion, so I wonder if I would even try or enjoy it if I knew it was so overhyped?

    I gave in and watched MLP while it was super overhyped and I sort of enjoyed it. I've had curiosity about Homestuck but it seems tl;dr for me.

    I'm just rambling..but I wonder if I would have reacted differently? And this is sorta the first time I've been really into something that's been overhyped. Not sure if Touhou counts, I'm not too into the games at all. And it's also the first time that seeing hype-aversion has made me noticeably upset.

    /ramble
     
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    I see we found the edit button :mahin:

    I already know far more than I want to about this type of thing, and the hype isn't matching up with the details. I also seriously begin to worry whenever someone is criticised for approaching something with a neutral mindset :pignon2: Think I'll remain ignorant and remain happier for it.
     
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    I use that goddamn edit button every day, not joking.
    It's my best friend.

    I decided that what I said was stupid and got this thread nowhere, and that being chill was a better option.
    I feel like I've learned some sort of lesson o:
     
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    ...fucking Zim fans
     
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    This on the other hand was very enjoyable to read :D
     
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    I heard about this when it popped up on ModdB a month or so ago. I haven't played it yet, but might. My religious sensibilities might be soothed by the non-eroge mode.
     
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    Ehh.
    The sex scenes aren't really the focus of the game. I'd say you're missing something if you turn them off though, so I guess you've reached a dilemma.
    My atheist sensibilities weren't soothed on when I played it, so I think you'll be fine.
     
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    I rember playing... um... Ah, Tsukihime, the classic Type-Moon visual novel. The team who reverse engineered a translation had a member who loved the franchise, but not the shagging. So he set up a sub-team who worked hard to fudge the script for a non-hentai version. They did a pretty good job. I just can't enjoy a game that treats semi-consensual butt-sex as a plot point, pixelated or not.

    This game has cut out the middleman. Not everyone wants to expose their brains to pornography. So they've made it optional. For something spawned in the bowels of 4chan, it's amazingly sensitive.
     
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    ...once again, 4chan didn't make this. It was suggested on 4chan, but that doesn't mean that every asshole on /b/ had their input. People really need to learn how to Internet sometimes >:T
    And also, it was suggested on /a/ anyway, which is generally not a bowel of anything...