Aug 24, 2008 at 9:06 AM
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I think those rules were originally written up to apply more to the GameFlaws forums than just the Cave Story ones, back when the site was more of a joint effort than it was mostly just the Cave Story bit. GameFlaws looked like it was originally designed for serious discussions and most forums with a hard-set purpose don't allow much room for spam or sillyness because that just promotes idiocy and bad reasoning. I still think most of them make sense though, and that a complete re-write isn't needed; just a bit of a fix-up to put them back in the necessary context.Roonil Wazlib said:Firstly, those rules were made WAY back when this place had virtually nothing to moderate about it. Back then SW was probably enough for the whole boards. Now however, some of those rules, especially the definition of spam, doesn't seem the right thing. How does it matter if the posts are composed of one line or ten if they don't make sense anyway, or if they actually add something constructive to the topic?
Also, not everyone here are video-game freaks. I personally am not one, which is why I am lost for speech beyond Cave Story and LF2 and a few more titles whenever someone asks me what games I enjoy. It's really not a very helpful rule about the signatures because most of us have generic sigs or something based on other stuff we enjoy. So why the rule about videogame-based sigs?
Uh wut? This doesn't really make sense. If anything the IMG code should be enabled there to promote the postings of pictures if it's the off-topic forum not the other way around.Roonil Wazlib said:Moreover, the IMG code is disabled there, which is an obvious measure to enable us to lighten up the rule enforcement there.
Yeah a bit never hurt anybody, but at the moment it's ALL SPAM IS ALLOWED ALL SPAM HAS ALWAYS BEEN ALLOWED HOW DARE YOU INSINUATE OTHERWISE. Off-topic doesn't have to = auto-spam, just 'not really related to Cave Story' stuff. And such a forum shouldn't exist, there's no reason for it.Roonil Wazlib said:I do understand that flamebaits aren't welcome anywhere in this forum, but there should be an allowance to go at least a bit offtopic over there.
Applying the rules still have to start somewhere though. I really think that after the dust settles we can all relax a bit and understand what is acceptable and what isn't but right now I think it's better if we just try to keep it at a minimum for a while. A week would be enough. That isn't excuse though to say "oh well I haven't spammed for a while now it's okay to do it again", it isn't a points system or something. But I do think all this focus on purely spam is a bit unnecessary because there are worse things that should be considered first (flaming, trolling, etc). If they go a good portion of the spam will go with them.Roonil Wazlib said:The obvious solution to Garde calling the "Kohaku vs whatever" posts offtopic is to make a new thread for such stuff which would only last a page or so because the scope of discussion itself is limited in such stuff. Shouldn't we, as a family, think of all this before pointing fingers on each other and saying "you spammed so you deserved to be warned" or "so and so has been bitching about his whole stay, so ban him"?
Alright then, but if having another discussion is going to get anywhere, and some changes are ultimately produced, we all have to adhere to them and not just turn a blind eye when it suits us. I'm sick of seeing "But but but it's okay for him to spam/flame/troll because he's funny about because I said so because I don't want to deal with the only slightly negative consequences" and calling everybody a hypocrite the moment they mention something because they're not blooming Jesus perfect. Just because somebody else does something isn't an excuse. If this is discussion is to work it needs to be about what is best for everyone and not going off on tangents when the obvious is stated.Roonil Wazlib said:And please, don't bring the personal arguments back here. PM's were used for a reason, now don't untie what has been knotted in. If you have something to add to or argue with my opinion, feel free, but don't pick names unnecessarily or that defeats the whole point of this post of mine.
Seeing as this is still my thread and all: If you can't be bothered to discuss your opinion properly then don't. It isn't that bloody hard to not-do something.
EDIT: This last bit is @ everyone before somebody gets mad at me >_>